Find another way to protect the environment, protect your right to choices HE doesnt like, protect your income, health care, and sense of security. Oh, I'm not supposed to bitch here...but I cant help it!

and I didnt call yesterday...is TODAY an option? not that I have much to say...

me too.

Imagine how much worse it would feel if the Red Sox HAD lost.

I think a lot of people are overstating their relative pain about this today (not that I'm saying you are one of them, mind you). Certainly you and I are both old enough to have voted for Dems who lost a lot bigger than Kerry. Everybody knew it would be a squeaker, and that one guy was going to have to lose. It shoulda been the other guy, that's all.

But but but ... your pitcher and his bloody foot were on the mound for the winning team. *runs*

This infidel was not debating, merely stirring up trouble.

brian ... i must disagree with you, that age and/or voter margin is directly related to the frustration us young'uns might feel regarding the election. i'm 25, and the first presidential election in which i was eligible to vote was the infamous 2000 election, and i don't think i realized how much that effected me until this time around. i don't know why.

especially considering that the most suspicious character from the 2000 election also had a role in this one, (duh,) there was something that made me prepared not to trust the results of the 2004 election. just the fact that i was preparing myself to be suspicious is new for me, and it hurts like a bitch.

i don't know ... i can't speak for everyone my age, (i mean, polerand doesn't seem to be reacting the same way, but i could be wrong,) but maybe, not only my disappointment, but also the magnitude to which i feel betrayed and lied to, is greater because it's my first large-scale heartbreak of it's kind. well, the second, i guess, but, like i said, i don't think i realized the fucked-upness of the 2000 election until this time around.

regarding age: i think it's precisely BECAUSE i'm young that i'm having a personal reaction to this, and to an extent, god bless it.

regarding voter margin: i think i'd feel a little better if it hadn't been a "squeaker," as you say. the results would have been easier to trust. as it is, i keep seeing stuff like THIS, and i don't know what to believe, so i don't believe anything.

letting go of your trust of big, big concepts that you had been told were part of your identity, that hurts.

shelley, sorry for the rant. i wonder if anywone will even see this. i'll give you back your blog now.

I, for one, didn't see this. ; )

Seriously, though, how much faith do we want to put in exit polls? Going into the polling place, there were people there handing out shit for and against the stadium. Luckily, I went up a side path. Otherwise, there would've been an ugly confrontation between myself and whomever approached me first, followed by an ugly confrontation between myself and whomever approached me second.

Similarly, if - on my way out - somebody asked me who I voted for, there would've been words exchanged, consisting in part of "Go", "yourself", and "fuck."

Won. Lost. It's all over with now. And if you wanna second guess it, because you have no other hobbies, that's fine. Just don't say exit polls are definitive.

And NOW Shelley can have her blog back.

i WASN'T saying exit polls were definitive, or that any faith should be put in them. i was saying the NOTHING is definitive, which is okay, in it's way, but to have nothing to put your faith in, sucks hard core. i really thought i'd be glad to have the politics-talk stop for a while after the election, but it's not working out that way. and my argument wasn't about who won or lost, either.

i was saying the NOTHING is definitive, which is okay, in it's way, but to have nothing to put your faith in, sucks hard core. i really thought i'd be glad to have the politics-talk stop for a while after the election, but it's not working out that way.

I agree. With all of it.

and my argument wasn't about who won or lost, either.

I was responding more to the article you linked, and that was perhaps my bad. You implied it had swayed you somewhat. I felt it was presumptious.